Ok so after talking to joost, we both agreed that the god system would suck if everyone was a peon, and only few were gods. So we decided that everyone will be a god.
How it works: As a god, you spend your time in heaven with other gods (players) and monsters(think greek myths). You will start out with a town, and the citizens respect for you will determine your overall strength. You can gain your citizens/worshippers respect by sending them money/gifts, and more importantly answering thier prayers.
Prayers: Prayers will be the equivalent of quests, but they will all have a time limit from when you accept them to when you need to finish them, otherwise you will loose respect from your followers. A quest may be like, "We wish to make war with the neighboring town of Towntownia. You must defeat thier god in battle. He lives on Mt something something." You then have 30 minutes to climb the mountain full of monsters and kill the god. Another may be like "We have run out of food!" and then you have to collect 30 food items in 15 minutes. Or kill some monsters that attacked the city, or whatever.
Town: Your town will be ranked as like a city, suberb, village, etc. The towns people may pray for advice on what to build next every so often, and you will be able to decide whether your people build different things.
All players are gods. I officially throw my hat out of the project.
This sounds like it could work. I like the quest ideas.
If you're going to have every player a god, a different system that would work with Matt's idea would be to make some people Zeus like gods or something.
Matt, tis brainstorming, a lot of ideas out there are good. We have a few days to decide what to do, and we should look at all options. A few days.
Matt you dont seem to understand how the game will play for the people that AREN'T gods. Your thinking of the game design from the perspective of the admin or god, where it would be really cool to have people worshiping you and having to keep playing to keep your title. But other people don't have the same incentives, so the game won't be fun for them. For the general population, it would simply be default mirage game, which some may like, but they won't play it for the god system.
Labmonkey Wrote:Matt you dont seem to understand how the game will play for the people that AREN'T gods. Your thinking of the game design from the perspective of the admin or god, where it would be really cool to have people worshiping you and having to keep playing to keep your title. But other people don't have the same incentives, so the game won't be fun for them. For the general population, it would simply be default mirage game, which some may like, but they won't play it for the god system.
I do understand. YOU do not understand. You've attempted to undermine my methods since the start of the project. I'm just done with this game. I will no longer be hosting the server either.
Good luck.
You guys can't just jump in and take Matt's project...
GIAKEN Wrote:You guys can't just jump in and take Matt's project...
I gave project head over to Joost when I unbanned him.
I got invited by Joost to help with the game design, and now matt quit despite me trying to convince him to stay with it. So now I am kind of left with it, and I would feel bad if I just let it die.
It's going to be a community game, so I am expecting you all to help out. That includes you too matt.
Labmonkey Wrote:I got invited by Joost to help with the game design, and now matt quit despite me trying to convince him to stay with it. So now I am kind of left with it, and I would feel bad if I just let it die.
It's going to be a community game, so I am expecting you all to help out. That includes you too matt.
No.
Joost may have head over but Matt is/should be still co-owner and control over the project...
GIAKEN Wrote:Joost may have head over but Matt is/should be still co-owner and control over the project...
I was. But I quit. So now I'm not.
I can host the server for you. The game idea reminds me of black and white and I really liked that game.
oh, funny quote of the day
Quote:Jacob says:
*oh
*that's a bit old
*but yeah
*he's so childish
*and not in a fun way
*he's the kid who grabbed all the toys from the toy chest and claimed them as his
*he won't play with anyone
*but he sure as hell won't let you touch them
Exadon Wrote:I can host the server for you. The game idea reminds me of black and white and I really liked that game.
oh, funny quote of the day
Quote:Jacob says:
*oh
*that's a bit old
*but yeah
*he's so childish
*and not in a fun way
*he's the kid who grabbed all the toys from the toy chest and claimed them as his
*he won't play with anyone
*but he sure as hell won't let you touch them
You're a faggot.
Nean Wrote:Exadon Wrote:I can host the server for you. The game idea reminds me of black and white and I really liked that game.
oh, funny quote of the day
Quote:Jacob says:
*oh
*that's a bit old
*but yeah
*he's so childish
*and not in a fun way
*he's the kid who grabbed all the toys from the toy chest and claimed them as his
*he won't play with anyone
*but he sure as hell won't let you touch them
You're a faggot wonderful person. Fixed.
Egon Wrote:Nean Wrote:Exadon Wrote:I can host the server for you. The game idea reminds me of black and white and I really liked that game.
oh, funny quote of the day
Quote:Jacob says:
*oh
*that's a bit old
*but yeah
*he's so childish
*and not in a fun way
*he's the kid who grabbed all the toys from the toy chest and claimed them as his
*he won't play with anyone
*but he sure as hell won't let you touch them
You're a faggot wonderful person. Fixed.
That's what I meant in the first place.
Nean Wrote:Egon Wrote:Nean Wrote:Exadon Wrote:I can host the server for you. The game idea reminds me of black and white and I really liked that game.
oh, funny quote of the day
Quote:Jacob says:
*oh
*that's a bit old
*but yeah
*he's so childish
*and not in a fun way
*he's the kid who grabbed all the toys from the toy chest and claimed them as his
*he won't play with anyone
*but he sure as hell won't let you touch them
You're a faggot wonderful person. Fixed.
I love Giaken.
Aww.
Blodyavenger
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I totally disagree with idea where everyone would be a GOD. That removes point of the design. In case everyone is a god it doesn't matter if you are a good at all. Squirrel or god, everyone is the same.
That system with few gods would work because when gods leave their kingdom or whatever it is, the loose strength if I'm not wrong - that was said in original concept. Please, for your sake, don't turn interesting content into boring one. What your are talking about is very confusing system and far away from original.
Noone said how hard would it be to become a god / to retake god's seat. It would not be like that some players become god and stay like that forever,
you can make "Week" endurance of "godness" and then you can't become one for at least one week.
Ok, that's my opinion
Blodyavenger Wrote:I totally disagree with idea where everyone would be a GOD. That removes point of the design. In case everyone is a god it doesn't matter if you are a good at all. Squirrel or god, everyone is the same.
That system with few gods would work because when gods leave their kingdom or whatever it is, the loose strength if I'm not wrong - that was said in original concept. Please, for your sake, don't turn interesting content into boring one. What your are talking about is very confusing system and far away from original.
Noone said how hard would it be to become a god / to retake god's seat. It would not be like that some players become god and stay like that forever,
you can make "Week" endurance of "godness" and then you can't become one for at least one week.
Ok, that's my opinion
That's exactly what I told Joost when I seen this thread.
The important thing here is everybody loving me.
But yeah, agreed with Blody.
While the system blody and matt made indeed are very good, they only provide fun for the few that are gods. I would make a chart, but I am too lazy. Basically the fun of being a god goes down as more gods are added to the system, but more overall fun is generated from being a god. While the god/king system may be a great addition to an already stable game, it shouldn't be the main focus. While it would be very fun for those 2-3 people, the rest of the community would have less fun, as they would not be part of the main focus of the game.
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Labmonkey Wrote:While the system blody and matt made indeed are very good, they only provide fun for the few that are gods. I would make a chart, but I am too lazy. Basically the fun of being a god goes down as more gods are added to the system, but more overall fun is generated from being a god. While the god/king system may be a great addition to an already stable game, it shouldn't be the main focus. While it would be very fun for those 2-3 people, the rest of the community would have less fun, as they would not be part of the main focus of the game.
If everyone is a God, it becomes the norm.
If it's the norm, then it isn't special.
You might as well just re-name the fucking game.
It's like giving everyone a rare item in the game because it's "only fun" for those who've had it drop for them.
Quote:Robin:
Why aren't maps and shit loaded up in a dynamic array?
Jacob:
the 4 people that know how are lazy
Robin:
Who are those 4 people?
Jacob:
um
you, me, and 2 others?
Robin Wrote:Labmonkey Wrote:While the system blody and matt made indeed are very good, they only provide fun for the few that are gods. I would make a chart, but I am too lazy. Basically the fun of being a god goes down as more gods are added to the system, but more overall fun is generated from being a god. While the god/king system may be a great addition to an already stable game, it shouldn't be the main focus. While it would be very fun for those 2-3 people, the rest of the community would have less fun, as they would not be part of the main focus of the game.
If everyone is a God, it becomes the norm.
If it's the norm, then it isn't special.
You might as well just re-name the fucking game.
It's like giving everyone a rare item in the game because it's "only fun" for those who've had it drop for them.
Exactly. Who cares if not everyone gets to be a god? The FUN IS IN TRYING TO BECOME A FUCKING GOD. If you can't handle not being a god, tough shit. Other people will play the game for the sheer fun in trying to become a god.
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