Development Log

[Tony]

MySQL is confusing to me.. The hosting part.

[halla]

MySQL is confusing to me.. The hosting part.

Hosting part? Once you get it set up and get farmiliar with it its a lot better and you will like it better. Its easier to sort through information when you have lots and lots of players. Also its easier to make php scripts for nice website additions. ANd its faster.

[William]

Anybody wanna fill in on more things that could be good for MSE2?

[Robin]

Music saved as string..?

[William]

Added it to the list, some improvements to the music part would be a good idea.

[Robin]

I was thinking more along the lines of Common Dialogue, but your idea is better

Yep, we need a preview button.

[Dark Echo]

Find a way to compress map data down so the size of them are a lot smaller before adding any more map attributes or new layers.. It would just increase the size of maps.. We dont want our players waiting when they are receiving a map.. :wink:

But yeah, thats really all i can think of at the moment.. Dont add too many features into MSE2, keep it pretty feature free.. This way people who make games will have totally unqiue games from on another you know what i mean.. It will give them the abilty to customise it completely how they want it.. We should keep MSE2 just as a simple structure, or base to work upon.. We shouldnt do the job for them..

[William]

It's very odd how everybody keep posting: don't add any features. Since I know that. And lordgivemick, those are things people can easily do on their own.

[Tony]

[cleared by william]

Please keep those things to PM.

[Reece]

Oh god, do NOT make the mapeditor its own form, that's easy to do and it makes it a PAIN for classic mappers such as myself, it gets annoying when you loose focus from the main game and think you are still mapping that features gets a big fat F on the list of things to add, meaning, please don't.

Amen to that.

Maybe fix the minor bugs that came with MS 303

[William]

Do anybody know anything else that can be added to the list? Any bugs you may occured but not reported etc.

[-_FirZen_-]

Can't see it on the list, Speech, like in ED? I just forgot why I wanted to move to mirage...?????

[William]

Speech will not be added.. sorry. Move to MS because its Great?

[-_FirZen_-]

Hum I see... If I could just take it from ED...

Maybe I want to move because MS is more basic... but still, I hate MS' GUI... other engines have a better base GUI for me to work on...

[William]

Hum I see... If I could just take it from ED...

Maybe I want to move because MS is more basic... but still, I hate MS' GUI... other engines have a better base GUI for me to work on...

I guess you havnt seen the new GUI then

http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/3213/menu1hw3.png

It's still pretty basic but more userfriendly, wait for MSE2 and make your choise after that.

[-_FirZen_-]

I meant Ingame GUI. Its mostly black with some buttons... Check the old konfuze, for example, a style that is still used in some engines. I'm very picky about visual GUI. Graphics not so much because what counts is gameplay.
Also, you could add proper moving. From MSE 1, it... well, lets not be afraid of words, sucked like .
yeah I just had to censor...

Btw, you reply fast as hell...

[William]

Konfuze had way for features, thats what made it look good.

Explain how your proper moving should work.

[-_FirZen_-]

From what I have seen on a fresh install of MSE, the character moves like:
right foot ; left foot ; right foot ; and so on.

Proper moving would be:

Stand ; right foot ; stand ; left foot ; repeat.

I don't know if there is a tutorial here for that. Its pretty easy to put in, but I've seen cases of people downloading VB source from Elysium Diamond without VB6... If you want a link, I'll post it, unless its already around (post in the specific section, of course).

[William]

Okay, nah I dont need it.

[-_FirZen_-]

Ok. This looks just like chatting online.

Also, I asked on the tutorial topic if the proper moving thing worked on mirage. No reply yet. As soon as I know, I'll search for an existing post, or make a new one. Yay I know forum usage rules

Also:
"Konfuze had way for features, thats what made it look good."

What do you mean by that? Inventory, HP, MP, Who's online, all that exists within MSE, they are just put together in 8 buttons or so. I can't navigate on that GUI, maybe because I'm stupid, or maybe because I'm too used to Konfuze style.

I'm slow understanding stuff, I know. Be aware.

[William]

I ment the visual inventory and such. There are 6 buttons on MSE, just press on them =/

[-_FirZen_-]

Ok... I guess I would have to... break... my source trying to do the Visual inventory stuff... You're right, Just click them... I dunno, guess its just the visual punch I like

By the way, is there an estimate time on MSE2's release?

[William]

Not yet, you can follow its progres in the MSE2 board.

[William]

Not yet, you can follow its progres in this topic.

[-_FirZen_-]

Hum ok. Its just because I'm waiting for both MSE2 and Elysium Diamond 3.0 to start up "something". I'm afraid of imcompabilities (spelling?) when changing engine.