Rian Wrote:Why must I delete your accounts? If you want nothing to do with this place anymore.....Just stop logging in. Smart mod.
Matt Wrote:Both Robin and DFA have been banned. If you honestly want your account deleted, this is as close as you're going to get.
Any takers? Stupid mod.
Joost Wrote:Rian Wrote:Why must I delete your accounts? If you want nothing to do with this place anymore.....Just stop logging in. Smart mod.
Matt Wrote:Both Robin and DFA have been banned. If you honestly want your account deleted, this is as close as you're going to get.
Any takers? Stupid mod.
I gave them what they wanted and in the process, stopped them from breaking rules. How am I a stupid mod?
Not to mention, I got permission to ban them BEFORE I did it.
Fine, someone else was being stupid ;p. And banning people to prevent them from breaking rules seems like a smart idea, I suggest banning all users.
Joost Wrote:Fine, someone else was being stupid ;p. And banning people to prevent them from breaking rules seems like a smart idea, I suggest banning all users.
If you're asking, I can ban you.
Otherwise, stfu.
Ban me for what? Wouldn't banning someone who did not break any rules'd be a sign of, I dunno, power abuse?
Joost Wrote:Ban me for what? Wouldn't banning someone who did not break any rules'd be a sign of, I dunno, power abuse?
Think I care tbh? I mean, seriously.
We have a plan and it doesn't matter if you get banned. It'll just make the process easier.
Now, like I said. If you want banned, I can do that. Otherwise, stfu.
Joost, I would consider listening to the kid with loaded gun. He has the right of the way even if he is wrong.
Toast Wrote:Joost, I would consider listening to the kid with loaded gun. He has the right of the way even if he is wrong.
I'm not a kid, but you got the right idea. Poking a bear with a stick is never the right thing to do.
Besides, if I were in the wrong in what I'm doing, I wouldn't do it. It's a matter of opinion and tbh, DFA, Robin and Joost have the lowest opinion here. I care not what they think.
Tbh, I care not what you think either.
It's not up to me to talk for this community. Personally I think MirageSource should die, it's seriously outdated. You sure are making that happen faster. Congragulations on your Mod position in dying community. You must feel like your on top of the world.
Toast Wrote:It's not up to me to talk for this community. Personally I think MirageSource should die, it's seriously outdated. You sure are making that happen faster. Congragulations on your Mod position is dying community. You must feel like your on top of the world.
The source will live. Doesn't matter how people feel about that. If they don't wanna use it, then they don't have to. There are some of us that have a nostalgic love for Mirage Source and since that will always be true, the source will remain alive.
This is ridiculous. You're all getting butt hurt over me banning two members that wanted their accounts deleted. Big deal. Does it hurt feelings more that they're banned and not wiped from existence instead?
It's even getting to the point that someone by the name of Damien is asking Labmonkey to flood Mirage Source with packets to shut the site down.
And you people want this community to live.. *shakes head*
Matt Wrote:The source will live. Doesn't matter how people feel about that. If they don't wanna use it, then they don't have to. There are some of us that have a nostalgic love for Mirage Source and since that will always be true, the source will remain alive.
This is ridiculous. You're all getting butt hurt over me banning two members that wanted their accounts deleted. Big deal. Does it hurt feelings more that they're banned and not wiped from existence instead?
It's even getting to the point that someone by the name of Damien is asking Labmonkey to flood Mirage Source with packets to shut the site down.
And you people want this community to live.. *shakes head*
Okay fine, whatever. This community is holding on by only a few members then.
I'm not getting "butt hurt", I'm just sitting here thinking how something like.. We're all in a some sort of free company, trying to work together to make a engine which we can all use. One day the engine's community starts to die and some once dedicated members leave. Then the new guy upstairs decides well we now that there gone I can burn there workspace they we're using. Personally that doesn't sound right to me, and that's why I decided to post. I know I have no power to do anything about this. I'm just giving my opinion.
Toast Wrote:Joost, I would consider listening to the kid with loaded gun. He has the right of the way even if he is wrong. Toast didn't you say you were fifteen? O_o
Also, wow I missed a lot. I've been busy and thought that Mirage would be doing better since I'm hated so much here and then all of this crap comes up. Do I think Mirage should die? No, I believe it will be useful to any person no matter how old it will get. I didn't even see this topic until DFA gave me the link on MSN. You all should just stop whining. Those who want to leave then leave and those who wish to stay and make Mirage better then stay. Stop all the arguments and work together, kiss and make up. And, after saying this, I'm probably going to be hated more, but I don't even care. You all know what you want to do or not. This is your decision, so make your damn choice and follow it through.
Yes I am 15, but that doesn't mean anything about anything.
Okay, no more arguing.
wow, you guys need to seriously stop hating on each other.
The source will live on.
The only things ms needs to live on are
Conversion and maybe dx8
Conversion being the most important.
To me the number one thing that stops people is using vb6. No one likes it.
Shut up Doomy, no-one is going to convert MS4 to Dx8 for you.
I don't think MS should die either. Sure, there are less people here these days then ever, but I don't see that as a fault of MS itself, It's simply a sign that things are moving on. Alot of people here are in their 20's, and grew up in a boom time for programming. I'm 14, and I remember when I first found eclipse, years and years ago. My peers were content with playing runescape and the like, I wanted to know how it worked. I moved on through communities, messing with playerworlds and elysium for a while. (I also tried chaos engine. Fuck that shit.) No-one I knew was interested, but I was. There was nothing else accessible for me at that time, and those little communities let me absorb knowledge from all the people around me. Anyway, eventually, when I was bitching about something or other, Robin came along and basically told me to shut the fuck up and go to mirage. Sure, I had a bit of a bitch fit when I got flamed from day 1, and I went and cried at vbGore, I came back. I came here and I learned. Alot. It's not just me. Look at Nean, he was a complete retard when he first got here (< 3) And Doomy even learnt to spell!
tl;dr Sob story, Nean is gay, Don't get rid of Mirage.
I didn't even say convert it for me, I'm not even using mirage, let alone making a game now.
I wanted it for the community. I always do stuff for the community, as in me always giving out free stuff to it
Doomy Wrote:I didn't even say convert it for me, I'm not even using mirage, let alone making a game now.
I wanted it for the community. I always do stuff for the community, as in me always giving out free stuff to it
I was joking < 3
And yes, your obama picture has proven hugely useful.
Why does this stupid bullshit have to happen?
Nean Wrote:Why does this stupid bullshit have to happen?
Everything was fine until you came here.
Fuck you Nean.
Fuck you.
Nobody is bothored that you banned 2 members Matt, its just sad that this place has turned into such a waste of space. The only reason I bother checking here anymore is to see if magically overnight someone has grabbed it by the balls and turned it into what it fucking should be. And unfortunately mate, what it should be doesn't include you as a moderator, doesn't include constant private community warfare, and tbh doesn't include most of the people here.
Bleh, what do I know, its not like I've ever pulled together a community before :? . But seriously, this place needs to start again with a strong message and a decisive goal - active MMO coding discussion. Look at good open source communities from all walks of life, they wouldn't piss on MS to put out a fire in an orphanage.
Having a lil community of people in the corner that just pitch up to chat is great, but its dominated these forums and there aren't any serious coders here anymore. Not anyone that really gives a shit anymore, aside from Jacob who is a hero. I believe this has happened mainly down to people growing out of vb6 and progressing to other languages, projects, hell most of them probably just moved on from coding alltogether.. but this shouldn't kill a community. New people come, new spirit, there is always a goal and people pushing forward in open source communities, always.
There isn't here. This place isn't inviting to onlookers, its hard to find, there is no clear product, nothing for people to get excited about, its just a dreary little forum on the corner of the internet full of kids, power trips, assholes and redundant code.
When someone would like to set up a polished corner of the internet where ms can be what it is, an oldschool hobbiest introduction to MMO game design - call me. Until then, most of you are pissing on what this project has to offer and pissing all over each other.
We had a visit from Consty a while ago at MR and he said it was the most true-to-nature realisation of what he'd invisioned MS to be that he'd ever seen. He visited us, not this place, not anybody else, us. Why? Because we are a couple of guys who want to code a game, not a couple of guys who want to sit on a forum day in day out achieving fuck all and bitching at each other.
Throw everything you know of this place out the window, look at the product, assess its target market, and construct an online representation that sells to that market. MR has always pulled in outsiders, always - because I ignored all the shit here and presented the product in a way I would like it to be presented to me.
What would I like to find if I went out one day searching on the internet for X? If X was a small 2d retro MMO project coded in a language I could understand very well in under 6 months, I wouldn't find it hidden under all these layers of bullshit.
TLDR, whatever. Seriously though guys, pull your shit together. The collective talent is here, why doesn't anyone take charge and sort this all out? I'll tell you why, because people are too busy pissing on each other to form alliances and sort it out. Stop being such a bunch of selfish pricks and deliver MS to the masses, if you can't - let somebody else.
Bleh, thats the last I'm saying on any of it. When I first found MS it was fucking amazing. People elsewhere on the internet had exactly the same dream as me - If I was a kid now and ran into this place then pff... I wouldn't of gotten into coding, I wouldn't of ran communities, I wouldn't of became apt in graphic and web design, I wouldn't of gotten employed where I work now, and I wouldn't be starting as a Java Developer next monday.
Start acting responsible, for fuck sake guys.
Liam
tl;dr
The current plan, not 100% sure it's going to happen, but we're going to do exactly what you're bitching needs to be done, Fox.
In order for the community to succeed, it must become about more than just the source. I can't give details out on what's going on, just yet.
And tbch, I really couldn't care what YOU think of me being a mod. I ban 2 people that wanted to be deleted and I keep getting people bitching about me having mod saying that I'm ruining the community. I didn't even do anything, once you guys seen my name was blue, you all turned into complete retards or something.
Personally, all of you who don't like it, fuck off. Grow up.
With pleasure.
I formally request a ban, no more of this for me thanks.
Coke Wrote:With pleasure.
I formally request a ban, no more of this for me thanks.
*shakes head* Childish idiot.
Talk to Rian if you want the ban.
Is someone not trusted with banning privilages?
Coke Wrote:Is someone not trusted with banning privilages?
I can ban. I just don't wanna ban you. I see no reason to do so.
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