Non-MS Games and engines .. where are they?

[Spodi]

Good thing is im having visual basic lessons on highschool ,Bad thing is that vb kind of suk so Ill have to search for a good summer school that teachs me another language or for my last option buy a c++ book and learn from it xD

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People who say C++ is so much better then VB are people who obviously haven't been around the programming scene long enough or have a lot of programming experience. True, C++ CAN, emphesis on CAN, be better, but doesn't mean it always is. Code isn't magically faster because it is C++. Also, you're making a 2d ORPG, not a 3D MMORPG/FPS - most of your speed goes into rendering, that is it.