Dakar / Darkar

[William]

He's been banned several times before for both spamming and theft, which is a criminal act. He's been banned in many communities for doing the same thing. We had an unwritten rule not to allow criminals on these forums. However, new ownership, new rules

[William]

Did I unban him?

[Misunderstood]

Did I unban him?

He posted recently

[William]

Did I unban him?

He posted recently

So he just joined the forum?

[grimsk8ter11]

yeah, but until he acts up, lets leave him alone, everyone int heir right mind knows not to trust him, and he doesnt seem to be any worse then kite and such with his posts.

[GodSentDeath]

It's not like he did anything bad... People were dumb enough to trust him. He's not a "criminal" as Shann has put him. He's just a kid that tricked people into getting their sources. Boohoo?

[William]

Scamming, in other words?

[GodSentDeath]

Boohoo?

People get scammed here and there. It's not like it's a once in a lifetime thing. It's not like he even did take much. It's not like he's even doing anything with the stuff he "scammed" for right now.

But whatever, what's the point of even arguing. Of course we'll never change our thoughts on it. :roll:

[Granite]

I am going to have to agree with shann on this considering I personally Despise darkar and his actions, we all know he scammed and ruined stuff in the past, and he was banned for a reason, and many more after that.


IF I was the owner of MS still, I would ban him on the spot. Because I know how he is and I know his only reason here now is to cause trouble in this community which is already happening. Members are seeing this guy is allowed back and they are not happy, darkar see's this and uses it to his advantage to turn everyone against each other. That is all I see that is happening right now.


Sure there is no proof right now of what he did, but back then there was a hell of alot of proof to go on for me to ban his ass. and when shann was in rule he saw enough for him to ban him. so it is kinda a slap in the face to both me and him from my personal opinon on this to let darkar stay in the community as he is doing. When his intentions are quite obvious to turn everybody against each other.


but oh well I can't do anything about it except voice my opinion

[GodSentDeath]

IF I was the owner of MS still, I would ban him on the spot. Because I know how he is and I know his only reason here now is to cause trouble in this community which is already happening. Members are seeing this guy is allowed back and they are not happy, darkar see's this and uses it to his advantage to turn everyone against each other. That is all I see that is happening right now.

Only the morons are the ones bitching. Darkar came and said hi and the community freaked out. :roll: Wow, shows how great of a community this place truely is...

If he continues his bullshit, William will be able to take action based on the evidence provided here.

The only bullshit is the bullshit the community is starting with him. Frankly, the community is a bunch of dumb kids that can't handle a little runt like Darkar. Boohoo? Cry a river? Leave? It's sad to see what Darkar can do... when all he did was say hi and chat with people. Even though people are freaking out at Darkar, he doesn't even spam the shit out of them, he's being the most mature... sadly... :roll:

[William]

Ok, thats extremely funny. So let me see if i have this correct. Some racist asshole have been going around calling people nigger left and right (working people up). He disappears for a year, and comes back acting like an "angel". When he came back, people swears at him, beat the shit out of him for the things he have done in the past.

Yet, according to you, people should do that :roll: Yeah ok, who has issues?

The analogy above is saying the same thing. So your sticking up for him, because hes acting mostly mature? It doesn't excuse his past. Hmm, same thing as ..

Hitler now comes out of hiding and acts kind and nice. We should all be nice to him according to you. Disregard his past ...

Wow ... I mean just Wow. Willingly supporting evil people, thats just ... ouch. You'll make a good president.

[GodSentDeath]

Ok, thats extremely funny. So let me see if i have this correct. Some racist asshole have been going around calling people nigger left and right (working people up). He disappears for a year, and comes back acting like an "angel". When he came back, people swears at him, beat the shit out of him for the things he have done in the past.

Yet, according to you, people should do that :roll: Yeah ok, who has issues?

Apparently you need glasses old man.

So your sticking up for him, because hes acting mostly mature? It doesn't excuse his past. Hmm, same thing as ..

The only reason I'm "sticking" up for him is because of the dumbass people in the community. They freaked out at him for basically no reason. The people here on this forum, were not scammed by him. They were not directly involved with anything he did.

Hitler now comes out of hiding and acts kind and nice. We should all be nice to him according to you. Disregard his past ...

Apparently you don't give up on using completely different things.

Definiton Time! (yay!):
Darkar Scamming People: He told them he could code, they believed him right off the bat and gave him their source.
-Omg, no fucking way!!!!

Hitler - Killed a whole shit load of people and made many suffer.
-Hmmmmmm

Shan, you used to be smart and cool... Age hit you hard.

[Misunderstood]

You all need to relax.

Personally I think hes just a lonely attention whore, and if you ignore him he will go away(Like how he says he was honored people pretended to be him). Oh, and I also agree with Verr, if you ban him, he can always come back under another name. At least you know who he is now. Then there's also that part about sticking up and enforcing your beliefs, just to prove a point.

Thats all I have to say

[Granite]

its not just him being darkar the people are mad at.. they are mad because the staff is letting someone like that run around here.. personaly they fill at risk, for what he done in the past. Sure not many people were personally involved with that time.. but it is the logic of control, people are going to look at William as Weak and such because he is afraid to ban someone. they don't like the fact that a scam artist is allowed to run freely in the community.. Not Just Darkar, but I am sure we would all be worried if people like PC and Unknown started posting on the boards... someone who hacked MS games. People would be a little worried with letting someone like that around here.. let me just put it like this..

Just like Verrigan Says, it is the internet he could come back as something else if we ban him but it is the view from the members of the boards what they see.. I am looking at this from the members point of view cause I have had so many people contact me about this, when I found out darkar was posting here and he was being allowed.. I was pissed cause I think people like that deserve no chances what so ever and as I read more the mods are not taking the side of the community. I am personally against this because I created Mirage Source for the community. I let the community Run it self and it has done just fine and pretty much the whole community will agree on things.. The community is now agree that darkar has come and they don't like it. Shann and I don't like it cause we banned him from Mirage Source for plenty of reason, sure me and Shann are not the owners now ( I wish I had bought Mirage Source now), but as the Two people with me starting this site myself find it pretty harsh on us that our views on what the leader of this community should do is not being acknowledged..

that is my rant on this.

[GodSentDeath]

You do have a point there :oops:

Just talk to William about it again. But don't let shan do it :roll: Seriously. He'll bring up some shit from the past like Hitler for christ sake. :wink: And that obviously isn't relevant to what's happening here. :roll:

The words of Granite are soothing to the eyes and are well thought out =P

But whatever, like Advocate said, this place is more of a chat than a support forum,

[William]

Age has nothing to do with this. However, if you fail to see the connection between the two, perhaps your either older then I am, or feel much much older

[GodSentDeath]

The only connection is the fact they did "bad" things. The huge difference is the scale of which the things were.

[Granite]

it kinda hurts that this has become a chat more than a support forum.. cause I spent alot of time at the community.. heck more time here than my own game which I neglected because I wanted to contribute to this community so people can learn and help each other.. True 2 years ago it kicked ass here but lately with all these new people coming it seems no one wants to help anymore, well we don't have to help by giving code we help by giving the new generation a nudge and let them fly on their own and learn.

onto topic I do hate seeing what darkar has done to this community in less than a week and it hurts.. People are mad at each other and I don't like that. I know people wanna give him a second and chance and such, but alot of people are concerned about their future about this.. even though they were not connected to the past they could get involved later on when darkar starts going by a new name and such and scams someone who is not known of who darkar is.. heck he could do that to someone right now with the name darkar, cause I do have people ask me who he is.

True I will agree it is stupid for people to give out their code and they should reseach who the share it with. but having someone like darkar run here with people knowing what he has done, is going to make them scared and paranoid about him being here and then is why some of the MS vets don't agree with him being here. A Reason I agree with them that he should not be here but that is my opinion though and I can't make some one take my opinion and agree with it cause it isn't right.. I can only say how I feel and hope people will agree but I can't help it if people do not agree cause it is their opinion and I am not going to hold anything against them for their opinions.. I just wish this community would wake up and see the damage that is already being done here.

[GodSentDeath]

I too miss the old days of Mirage Source where it was all help and everyone was learning and there was no true power besides Shan and you. It was a big happy family.

Sadly, with all the new sources like Elysium, it has destroyed what Mirage Source tried so hard to maintain.

I wouldn't mind trying to rebuild the community to like it used to be... But that'd take a bit of effort. People would have to not be lazy anymore. We'd have to weed out the people that are here just to copy and paste, we could teach them actual ways of programming like we used to.

I'd say ban sources such as Elysium where it's all done for you. That's one big problem this community has. My own creation destroyed this beautiful place... Who would have known :twisted:

Fix up the tutorial sections 'again'. Weed out the doubles of the tutorials. Only allow tutorials that have been reviewed and check by a mod or a "code analyzer" before having it in the official tutorial sections.

Post more competitions. Post more in the sections besides chit-chat, rants and raves, and staff =P

Ask the community what they want... etc.

[Granite]

also make tutorials being posted in a picture format that would not allow the copy and pasting anymore.... that would fix that problem

[GodSentDeath]

Now if only we could get the members to ignore him, or treat him like a normal inferior member of the community (), he would get bored and leave. Oh well...

They already said no to that...

Just do what they want and ban him. When he comes back with a new name and fuck the members in the ass, we'll just tell them "I told you so".

[Granite]

He could just keep posting here not being banned create a new name, and then scam someone under that new name.. being banned or not there is still a risk of him scamming someone.. but alot of people would feel more better if he was banned.. that is what would please the community.

[GodSentDeath]

haha alrighty =P

[William]

Okay, I'll ban him. It seems like the best thing to do in everybodies interest. Im just not used to ban people that I never encountered before.

Banned.

And for the community as you were talking about, Im ready to do everything in order to restore it. But my views might be different to those that you have. But i suggest we make a new thread concerning this matter. In the staff board.