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Unmetered Web Hosting - Zephius - 05-12-2007
Ok so after crunching numbers and all that fun stuff I determined I would be able to offer Unmetered webspace for ridiculously low price. I'm gonna say this is most likely an industry first(haven't really looked into it to be honest). Ready for the price? How does $24.99 sound? Could drop as low as $18.99 if you sign for 2 years and act quickly(this offer will only last for 5 days starting on Dec. 10th). The catch is, this is for one domain only. We will be offering reseller/multi-domain accounts later on which will be either pro-rated for what you use or a flat monthly rate (ETA late March early April).
We are also going to be selling servers for as cheap as we can. We are trying for around $200-300. So all you dedicated game hosters you will finally be able to get a dedicated box for extremely cheap. We will also be leasing these servers with dedicated bandwidth.
So if you are interested in our unmetered hosting PM me or post here and I'll send you a coupon code.
Re: Unmetered Web Hosting - Matt - 05-12-2007
It's smarter to use a VPS for the game server, and a webserver for the site.
Godaddy offers VPS' for $60 a month. Webserver, I have no idea about.
Unmetered, I don't think $18-25 would be all that expensive though.
Re: Unmetered Web Hosting - Rezeyu - 05-12-2007
Hostway:
Quote:$26.95/mo
* 30 GB Web Space
* Unmetered Monthly Traffic
* 750 Email Accounts
Re: Unmetered Web Hosting - Zephius - 05-12-2007
Actually the $18-25 is extremely cheap and will most likely bite me in the ass. However the rackspace I rent and the hardware I purchased are paid off for 2 years and 6 months (got a wicked deal on the co-location). So you don't need to worry about us going under if you sign a 2 year contract. I've already written all costs off as loss and if I make 5% in return I will consider it to be a good investment and stay in permanently.
As for the VPS it on average costs $60 a month, but you are sharing a single server with usually around 10 other people and give equal share of RAM and CPU. Which means if you go over 10% of either they shut you down without a moments notice. Purchasing a small box equipped to handle what you need it to right off the bat for around $200-300 and you OWN it. Which means you can even turn around and VPS the thing if you wanted. If you don't need a server? A couple of quick tweaks on our end and you have an affordable workstation.
@ Rezeyu
The diskspace is also metered at that company.
Re: Unmetered Web Hosting - Matt - 05-12-2007
Verrigan pays $60 a month for a dedicated VPS.
Re: Unmetered Web Hosting - Zephius - 05-12-2007
Perfekt Wrote:Verrigan pays $60 a month for a dedicated VPS.
I find that hard to believe. Either they are lying to him about it being a dedicated or he got an insanely good deal. But I suppose it depends on the hardware too. If he is running a P3 at 500mhz and 128 mb ram he wouldnt really have that good of a deal. Not to mention Verrigan knows people I'm sure that played a huge role.
Re: Unmetered Web Hosting - Matt - 05-12-2007
It's got 512MB of ram, 2+GHz AMD, and a 1Gbps internet connection.
Re: Unmetered Web Hosting - Zephius - 05-12-2007
Dave Wrote:If we own it, does that mean you'll ship it to us?
Ever clever Dave.
I'll see what I can do. My business has always been geared to providing the best service and equipment for the cheapest amount possible. I'm not here to get filthy rich but to do what I like to do. Not many people can say they like their jobs but I'm one of the lucky ones and I plan to stay in business for a very long time and to make that happen I need to make my customers as happy and keep their wallets as full as possible. I cut costs by offering only what is needed and I will never bloat any system as long as I'm the one putting it together. Which is why I push Linux as hard as I do. So obviously all systems ship with Linux installed or empty hard drives(If you want windows that can be done also but it raises the price of the system because it obviously isn't free). If you want a box created leave a message or PM me with what you want it to do and any manufacturer preferences.
Re: Unmetered Web Hosting - Zephius - 05-12-2007
one Wrote:Are servers and VPS so expensive in US?
i can get a decent (linux) rootserver (not vserver or something) with 2400mhz, 512mb ram, 80gb hdd and 1000gb traffic @ 100mbit line for 22€ a month. installing vmware with windows possible. also with some technical knowlege about the recovery console and how to make an autoinstalling windows image with vnc preinstalled its possible to install windows instead of linux
whats expensive here in germany is traffic. servers that are 'unmetered' will usually be slowed down to 10mbit if they reach about 2000gb. a real unmetered 100mbit line costs about 1000€
Don't forget your money is worth more than our USD at this point in time. Also the $200-300 I listed for a server was to actually purchase it. But to answer your question yes hosting is very expensive in the US. Gotta love capitalism.
Re: Unmetered Web Hosting - Matt - 05-12-2007
60 is for a dedicated. Meaning, nobody else uses it.
Re: Unmetered Web Hosting - Rezeyu - 05-12-2007
A Ruby on Rails Dedicated is only 60 bucks for a 1Gig RAM, 2.8 ghtz.
Re: Unmetered Web Hosting - Zephius - 05-12-2007
one Wrote:Zephius Wrote:Don't forget your money is worth more than our USD at this point in time. Also the $200-300 I listed for a server was to actually purchase it. But to answer your question yes hosting is very expensive in the US. Gotta love capitalism.jeah, but still... 22€ is 32$. for a dedicated root server. you can get a linux vps for 15$. a windows vps is much more expensive, around 37$.
still much less than 60$ o_O.
i always thought that hosting in america is cheaper than here, just look what Dreamhost offers... there are no compareable offers here.
The problem with companies that offer such insane packages for such a low price is because they do what is known in the industry as Over-Selling also known as Over-Subscription. They will in fact over sell up to 100:1. So when they offer 500 GB and 5TB of bandwidth they are just luring you to the price for such an insane package knowing that you will never use it, then they sell that same space to 20-100 customers. If you were to even think about using all of those resources they would find a way to shut you down or create false charges to your bill. There is no way they could offer resources like that for only $6. Not to mention the cost of support, maintenance, advertising, and the cost of frill software like site builders and management panels. I squeezed the most I could out of my providers and created an unmetered package that will actually make me almost no money at all. My hopes for my offerings are that if people see how well we handle web hosting they will come to us for all of their computing needs.
Re: Unmetered Web Hosting - bpendz - 13-12-2007
Read the TOS always before ordering anything, Over here at Speed-Frag we don't over sell. Dedicated servers starting at $110, and VPS will soon be up and going(Starting at $15.99). And since we are dedicated to gaming we promise great ping rates and True %99.9 Uptime in less an act of god or a scheduled maintenance comes along. There is such thing as Unmetered basically they just don't watch your in and out connections. And its open to a certain point a 10mbps Unmetered is usually like 4gb/month in traffic. No I am not trying to sell you on anything nor am I trying to hijack your post but just a few useful tips. But really running a game server(IE. CS:S or your own MIRAGE BASED SERVER) takes up and down rates which = your monthly charge. CS:S at 32 players only runs me about 250-400gb per month. (Including when people aren't in server etc) With bandwidth it is alright to oversell because, in less someone uses upto there amount there is allot of leeway. But as long as the server has control of there bandwidth flow and can burst if they need to all users shall be fine. Go with a company who knows what there doing and doesn't charge some ridiculously low price. Support/Security/Speed are key the three s's of the industry.
btw Speed-Frag is still under development, integrating the Control Panels with billing and support is time consuming. But I want to get it right the first time!
~bpendz
EDIT. PS. You dont own a server, in less you co locate you don't own it. You lease it, your a server "Leasing" Company. You only own the software/data that you hold on the server. But I know dave knows that I was just making it clear to the original poster. My tos explains you do not own the server we do, we manage it, we take care of it in case you mess something up. Kind of like leasing a car, you pay a month for it, you have it you can basically do what you want for it, you break it we fix it we charge. Ahh things in this industry get so confusing to some people who are starting out.
Re: Unmetered Web Hosting - bpendz - 16-12-2007
Actually according to the hosting standards association. %99.99 uptime guarantees is only time that is not planned to be down. But everything self updates and make sure there is no reboot needed, and if so it will ask you for confirmation. Which is a 2-5 minute downtime. Which in my 3 or 4 years of working in this sector has never happened. Cpanel updates it self on scripts, really only if there is a MAJOR security update is when a reboot is needed.
~bpendz